LTC 146-2005 Sunset Harbour Condominium Building (North Tower)
CITY OF MIAMI BEACH
Office of the City Manager
Letter to Commission No. 146-2005
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Subject:
Mayor David Dermer and
Members of the City Commission
Jorge M. Gonzalez 0,.. · ~
City Manager va
SUNSET HARBOUR ONDOMINIUM BUILDING (NORTH TOWER)
Date: June 3, 2005
To:
From:
As you may be aware, on May 19, 2005, representatives of the developer of the above
referenced building, Pacific International, Ltd., appeared before the Miami-Dade County
Board of Rules and Appeals (BORA) and requested approval of another extension of the
Temporary Certificate of Occupancy (TeO) for a period of ninety (90) days. The board after
hearing testimonies from developer's representative, the Condominium Association
representatives and the City of Miami Beach Building Official, granted only a 30-day
extension of the TCO and conditioned the possibility of any further extension approval of
the TCO upon recertification of the building's life safety system and substantial completion
of outstanding repairs needed in the buUdl'tg.
The City of Miami Beach Building Official had recommended approval of a (90) day
extension to the TCO, and during the hearing recommended the approval of the extension
and voiced his concerns regarding the imptications of a TCO extension denial by the board
which include immediate closing and evacuation of the Building. However, the
Condominium Association representatives present at the meeting were recommending a
denial or a shorter-period extension of the TCO. Attached please find a copy of the
relevant pages of the transcript of the BORA's meeting on May 19, 2005.
The next BORA meeting is scheduled on June 16, 2005, and if the life safety systems of
the building is not recertified by that date or substantial completion of repairs required are
not accomplished, BORA may deny any further extension ofTCO, as may be requested by
the Condominium Association's representatives, and upon denial of TCO extension, the
Building Official will have no other choice but to close and evacuate the building.
If you have anyquestions, please let me know.
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ALL BC1IRD MEMBERS: Aye.
OJAIRMAN HORTCN: All opp::lsed? M:ltion carries.
Mr. Fine, we have tw::l IIDre for Sunset H3rb0r.
.::> ~. FINE: (cod afternoon, RoJ::ert Fine, 1221
5 Brickell Avenue, representing Pacific International, the
6 OOvelopers of Sunset Harbor.
7 First, I'd like to ask to consolidate mnbers
8 two and three of the agenda. They're really regarding
9 the sarre building. There just haHJens to J::e tw::l permits.
10 OJAIRMAN HCRTrn: Aren't they different floors?
11 Different area? Why is it tw::l pennits?
12 MR. FINE: We're not really sure, but they
13 w::lrked through the buildings. They've been mnsistently
14 all along with these Satre two permits as v.e've been
15 renewing them. They used to care in as single
16 applications. The p:llicy of the Poard changed, so
17 there's rrore than one pennit, do it as setmate
18 applications. They care in that way, but they used to
19 c:orre in as one application in the past.
20 We're here today to request a 90-day extension
21 of the terrporary certificate of occupancy. This is a
22 building you all know, I dare say love.
23 I do have SCIre bad news for you. All these
24 I:Blcony issues you've seen going on for years and years,
25 the I:Blmnies I'm infomed are now ccnplete. There's
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call for final inspections and that's really v.here the
association is having trouble with another 90 days.
I had offered, to avoid this, suggest a
4 mrrprcmise and that is -- and I'd like this Board to
5 mnsider that, grant them 30 days, put it on the next
agenda, let them cone !::ack and explain why, if they
7 haven't, they haven't called for final inspections.
8 Association even tried on its 0\Vl1. We
9 mntacted the building official for the City of Miani
10 !?each. Of course, v.e v.ere told association can't call
11 for in&pections, only the permit holder can. This Poard
12 told us last IIDnth, you can't orOOr the pennit holOOr to
13 call for final inspections. You can't order the building
14 official to conduct final inspections. We can't ask for
15 them. If this isn I t catch 22, there is no catch 22.
16 And so I recognize and don't have authority to
17 say to you on J::ehalf of the association's mard of
18 directors or its unit owners that v.e want you to put them
19 out on the street. And I understand that w::luld J::e the
20 domino effect that v.e discussed last tirre, if in reality
21 that v.ere to occur.
22 Since there are no life safety issues involving
23 this building, at least according to Mr. Azan when he was
24 still the building official, I think v.e all predicted he
25 w::luld J::e retired J::efore this problem got resolved and
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sone other issues to wrap up in the building and v.e have
2 a couple of issues we'd like to talk to the Poard about
for discussion after we're done with the TCO and get a
little bit of advice fran the Poard to resolve on a
couple of things, but for the m::rnent, we are here
requesting this extension of the TCO.
OJAIRMAN HORTCN: Your TCO is expired as of the
8 17th, correct?
9 ~. FINE: I J::elieve so. I know there's people
10 here to speak from the association. Afterward, I'd like
11 a couple of IIDmmts to resp:lnd to that and then bring up
12 these other issues that we think will help us IIDve along
13 the line in wraWing up this building.
14 OJAIRMAN HORTCN: All those who are going to
15 ~k -- well, you don't need to I::e sworn in. Let's hear
16 those tenants that have sonething to say.
17 ~. LIl'-IDEN: Neil Linden with Adorno & Yoss.
18 I'm the attorney for the association. I was here three
19 IIDnths ago, as you all nay recall. We naOO a fairly
20 lengthy, fairly loud presentation, I'll say. We had all
21 hoped that we wouldn't I::e !::ack here asking -- or with the
22 OOveloper seeking to get another extension of the TCO. I
23 think we're now in the 2D-sarething extension.
24 As far as I know, the I:Blcony work is not all
25 carplete. Whether it is or it's not, there's I::een no
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that, in fact, has cccurred.
And so what I w::luld like to suggest to you is
just give them 30 days, hold their feet to the fire.
4 They did work hard after the last go-around. They slowed
down at the end again and now they want another 90 days.
I rather be !::ack here in 30 finding out v.hy they need
7 additional tirre rather than giving him 90 and then having
8 the discussion about adiitional tinE.
9 CHAIFWIN HCRTCN: Thank you.
10 BC1IRD MEMBER KURZMAN: Could I get the building
11 inSpector?
12 CHAIRMAN !KRTCN: Is there anyl::ody else that
13 wants to speak on behalf of the association.
14 MR. IJNllEN: Yes, one of the I:xJard rraTbers want
15 to address the I:xJard.
16 MS. BENEZEAA: I want to ad:l one thing. I
17 wasn't able to be here at the last rreeting. Mj narre is
18 Cybill Benezera. I'm a director, an O\Vl1er. I've J::een an
19 O\Vl1er since 1997. And I just find it totally
20 preposterous and inherently wrong that a developer has
21 I::een allowed to go eight-and-a-half years without getting
22 a CO, without even calling for a final inspection. I
23 nean, sonething is just not adiing up.
24 Regardless of all the other issues that have
25 c:orre into play, the balconies, this wasn't corrplete, that
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1 inspection. There's sorrething in the overall picture
2 that's really wrong. And the gentlanan has rot even been
fined.
I know if I had a violation against lWf prop"rty
for garrege in 30 days, if I didn't clear it, 500 bucks a
day. How core this rran hasn't had any fines, hasn't had
7 any reason, really, to rrove forward? And what's rrore,
8 what's even rrore ironic, the sarre developer is out there
9 building plenty of rrore buildings and probably leaving
10 those in the sarre state that ours is in. If you all can
11 answer that question for Ire, I would really I::e grateful.
12 Thank you.
13 GlAIRl>W'l OORTCN: Thank you.
14 OOARD l1M3ER SALVAOCR: I'll anS't.er that for
15 you. I Irean, we can't cb anything, really. We have
16 hearings against state license contractors and they cone
17 I::efore this Board and the only thing we can cb is take
18 his license CMay. If a contractor is \'II:lrking - we can't
19 even do that, because he really hasn't done anything
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1'13. BENEZERA: It's not wrong, then, that
eight-and-a-half years go by without --
OOARD t-EMlER SALVAOCR: It is wrong.
24 MS. BENEZERA: Okay, I know one of the issues
25 is, is it life threatening, okay? And can I say it's
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honestly, personally, I really wish it would happ"n,
I::ecause v.e'd have 240 residents out in the street, v.e'd
have all kinds of publicity, v.e'd have this develq::er's
4 narre allover the rredia and people would know not to buy
in his projects, at least.
BOARD MEMlER KlJRZMl\N: And who pays for the new
7 apartrrent that you have to rent while you're still paying
8 the bank on your rrortgages, on your payrrents, on your
9 insurance, the whole nine yards? And it's a cbuble
10 wharree. And who in the end, rottom line, is suffering?
11 You and the residents, not the develop"r.
12 1'13. BENEZERA: I don't think -- with all due
13 resplct, sir, I really don't think it would take rrore
14 t~ 24 hours, 48 hours for the develq::er to get off his
15 tail and start doing sarething and at least ask for a CO,
16 okay? At least ask for a CO insplction.
17 BOARD MEMBER KlJRZMl\N: I would like to end the
18 discussion, because this could go on all afternoon.
19 MS. BENEZERA: I know, I know.
20 MR. SEMi\JA: I'm a developer. I work for a
21 d:velop"r. When she's done, nay I?
22 CHAIlM\N HCRTCN: There's procedures that are
23 followed within the guidelines that the county has set
24 up. You nay think they're wrong, but that's what they
25 are. That's what this Board goes by. So, unfortunately,
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life threatening? I don't think so. lbt today. But by
2 the sarre token, there could I::e sore life threatening
3 issues there. And it could not only I::e affecting our 250
resid:nts or 240, but it could be affecting row the neN
properties, the neN prop"rties that this rran has I::een
allov.ed to develop.
OOARD ~R KtJRZMlI.N: vell, llB'am, the neN
properties are rot even an issue, with all due respect,
9 but let Ire answer you this way so perhaps you feel a
10 little I::etter and you can appreciate our frustration.
11 I think v.e, in this room, would I::e l::arbarded
12 with all of your neigbOOrs, with all of the residents if,
13 in fact, we said no rrore extensions, that's it, you're
14 cboo, finish up your building, cone reck, apply for a
15 final CO and at that tirre the insplCtor rrekes his final
16 inspection, you're going to get it.
17 In the interim, in the interim, everyone is
18 rroved out of the building, the p:lv.er is turned off to the
19 building and you have to vacate. Wow, what a situation.
20 Always I::e careful what you wish for.
21 1'13. BENEZERA: Because you might get it.
22 OOARD l-fM3ER KtJRZMlI.N: Because you might just
23 got it.
24 1'13. BENEZERA: But you know sarething, I
25 really - I know I have no authority to ask for that, but
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that's the way it is.
MS. BENEZERA: I understand, but one other
thing, as Mr. Linden said, it's a catch 22, we can't ask
for it, he cbesn't have to ask for it, therefore, the
building never has to have a CO.
BOARD MEMBER KURZM1\N: lb, not true.
CHAIFMAN HCRTCN: That's not true.
8 MS. BENEZERA: ell, okay, when cbes it have to
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CHAIlM\N HCRTCN: \'hen all the work is corrplete.
BOARD MEMlER KlJRZMl\N: That I s why I want to hear
from the inspector and I'm sure he's going to tell us how
the work is progressing, that in his professional cpinion
where v.e're at and when it should be cmpleted.
MS. BENEZERA: Sounds good. Thank you.
MR. OOLIKHANI: As you all know, I've I::een the
17 building official for 45 days, so I didn't create Sunset
18 Imror for you, ror for this lady here.
19 CHAIFMAN HCRTCN: state your nare for us.
MR. OOLIKHANI: Hamid Cblikhani, Building
21 Official, City of Miami Peach.
22 As far as the repair work goes, they have
23 cmpleted -- I checked one hour I::efore caning here, they
24 have cmpleted the J::alcony \'II:lrk and we have signed off on
25 the J::alcony work exrept one unit and that one unit, the
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unit ovmer, had installed rrerble with thick rrud
und:meath it, redlcing the height of the railing. \'e
3 have an issue there. We're issuing a Notice of Violation
4 to that unit ovmer.
There are other minor wrk. There are stucco
wrk, delaminating stucco throughout the building, that
7 has to re cbne.
8 There are safeguards in the parking garage. The
9 railing, they have been rusted, they have to re repaired.
10 There are spalling concrete, different part of
11 the building that have to re repaired.
12 And after all those repairs are cbne, reing the
13 age of the building, that it's eight, nine years old in
14 use, life safety system needs to re recertified. Fire
15 alarm system needs to be recertified refore we can sign
16 off on a final CD.
17 OOARD l-fl.EER SALVAIXR: And you wuld allow them
18 to do that, right? You would grant them a rermit or
19 whatever they need?
20 MI.. OOIJKHANI: They have to recertify those
21 syst€!llS refore we can sign off on a final CO.
22 OOARD l-tM3ER SALVAIXR: All right, Mr. Chairrran,
23 I think if Virgil was here, I wuld rrake a rrotion to deny
24 and he wuld seo::md it.
25 OOARD t1M3ER GCMEZ: I'll second.
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person answer.
MR. FINE: Rebert Eine again.
We want this building over with. We 1 re tired of
4 l:::eing here also, but we have a couple of probl€!llS.
Problem Nmber 1 is that Mr. Dolikhani has been
the building official for 45 d3.ys, but alxlut 60 d3.ys ago
7 Mr. Azan was at a meeting with myself and one of my
8 partners and he said we need you to cane out and give us
9 a list, a carprehensive list, with all your inspections
10 for final CO and he said I r 11 have my people out there
11 within a week, week-and-a-half. We have not gotten this
12 list. We do not have, from the Building Departrrent, that
13 list. They have not done the pre-seal insrections. And,
14 why, I don't know. If we had it, we'd re real haWY to
15 start wrking on that list and start dlecking them off.
16 And so that's Nurrber 1.
17 Another issue is, one of the issues that we have
18 going on there, is that there's this railings around the
19 edge of the pool and it needs repair. Because of the
20 titre period, we have sutrnitted for pennits and the city
21 wn't give us pennits to fix that, recause they say we
22 have open rermits. Well, of course, we have open
23 pennits. We have a TCO, we're not CO'd, but to the
24 extent we can 1 t get these pennits, they're ready to do
25 the work and they can't get it done.
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OJAIRMAN HORTCN: You're rraking a rrotion to
d:ny?
OOARD MEMlER SALVAIXR: I'll rrake a rrotion to
d:ny.
OOARD l'-fM3ER BARNES: I '11 second.
OJAIRMAN HORTCN: Now for disOlSsion.
MI.. OOIJKHANI: I would - as a building
8 official, I wuld not suggest that, l:::ecause, again --
OOARD l1M3ER SALVAIXR: \'e're trying to put a
10 little fire on sorrebo::iy, you know.
11 toR. OOIJKHANI: Putting 200 people out on the
12 street is not --
13 OOARD l-tM3ER SALVAIXR: \'ell, I rrean, they rroved
14 fran the last three rronths, didn't they? We rrade it
15 clear that we need to get this done.
16 OJAIRMAN HORTCN: Still, one at a titre.
17 Mr. D=!rrer has a question.
18 OOARD l-tM3ER DERRER: I have a question. last
19 titre you carre, I think we said cbn' t carre back, but
20 you're here. Can this wrk re done in 30 days in
21 an}kxxJy's opinion?
22 11<.. SEM\JA: No, sir.
23 11<.. OOIJKHANI: Sarre representative is here from
24 the developer.
25 OJAIRMAN imTCN: The question was asked. One
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$0 we need sc:rre help, whether it r s a little push
frcrn you, a suggestion, another rreeting fran the Building
3 D=!partrrent, we need to get a way to get out full CO list
4 to cb that and we need the penni ts for this raredial wrk
5 that needs to re done to re issued. They're ready to go.
6 They're ready to get it cbne.
7 And, in fact, you know, my entire preface of
8 this meeting was, you know, can you ask the Board to find
9 a way to help to give the building official a little bit
10 of push, he's brand new, he's taking over a huge job and
11 I understand that. And Phil - I cbn't know if H3mid was
12 in the meeting with phil when it hawened, but to the
13 extent there's a way we can cut through this, get those
14 pre-seal inspections done so we actually have the finite
15 list, that wuld re very helpful.
16 The other thing is, we have a problem in that
17 after reo was issued and after the building was turned
18 ov!"r without the consent of the general contractor, the
19 asscciation, through their own people, had people cane
20 and apply for pennits to rrake rrodifications to the
21 building's life safety system, not just wrking in
22 sorrebody's unit tying in, but in the rrein building.
23 Now, the Building D=!partnent says to us, we want
24 you guys, general contractors, to recertify it. Well,
25 they did not with our consent. These people did it. We
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think the city should be estopped fran having us
recertify. The new people should recertify the system.
3 They have changed the system that we designed, we
4 engineered, we put in the building. At the extent
5 without our consent was allowed to change the system,
6 that should not be our obligation to do that.
7 It wasn't really the subject of an a~al today,
8 it might be a rronth from nCM, but those are really the
9 big concerns we have. W:! want out of this buildin;j.
10 OOARD t-fMlER SALVAIX:R: Mr. Fine, you knCM how
11 long this has been going on? For one, they're shaking
12 their head no. They'll give you the permit, right?
13 M\. OOlJKHANI: This is news to rre, what he says
14 that the permits are being held.
15 OOARD IDEER SALVAIX:R: And second -
16 t-R. OOlJKHANI: Secondly, I have Mr. Sem3.ja, Joe
17 here. From the first tine I becone building official, I
18 rret with him once. I think last week and he has brought
19 to his attention what are the oustandin;j issues. If he
20 wants it in writing, we'd l::e glad to provide it in
21 writing and you can be copied on what are the outstanding
22 issues.
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M\. SEWIJA: let's get them correct.
CHAIRWIN HORTeN: State your narre, for the
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1 MR. SEMAJA: We can brin;j that up -- if you have
2 to. brin;j it up at a later date, that's cool, J::ut we have
3 the railings. You rrentioned the rails on the --
4 MR. COLIKHANI: stucco issues delaninating, the
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MR. SEMAJA: Now the pool deck, the pool ckk
railings, you knCM that we went cbwn looking for a permit
the other day. You knCM we were pushed out on that.
MR. COLIKHANI: You know, even the pool deck, if
you really want to, you can separate the pool deck issue
11 from CO the final building.
12 CHAIFMAN HCRTCN: Can we stop here, gentlEIlEn,
13 l::ecause there is no point in c:bing the dirty laundry
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MR. SEMAJA: We're not c:bing that, I'm sorry.
CHAIFMAN HCRTCN: I'hat we need to do is for you
to sit dcwn with the building official, cone up with a
18 list. You're agreeable to that; is that correct?
19 MS. M:NrOYA-HASAN: W:!ll, we have. In fact, I
20 was going to correct ~ colleague, who wasn't there, but
21 I was present at a rreetin;j aOOut a week ago where we went
22 over all the issues that were still pending, that neecEd
23 to l::e addressed and finaled, including the life safety
24 systems to obtain the CO and we just did that two days
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M\. SEWIJA: My narre is Joe SE!lBja (phonetic).
hnid and I have rret several tines.
CHAIRWIN HORTCl'l: Who c:b you represent?
M\. SEWIJA: Group Pacific.
CHAIRMl\N HORTCl'l: The owner?
Mt SEWIJA: The owner -- the develop:!'.
H3mid and I rret. We worked through a lot of
8 these issues. That's why we're here to where we get so
9 far. We have had a few stmbling blocks. Cne of them
10 is, we're going to l::e here four rrore tines, if we don't
11 have a finite arrount of work or what it is that we have
12 to do. I c:bn't think Hanid has figured out everything
13 that they're going to want.
14 OOARD }fM3ER SALVAIX:R: H:l just rrentioned -
15 Mt SEWIJA: I know he rrentioned, but that's the
16 end of the issues.
17 M<.. OOlJKHANI: Plus life safety system.
18 M\. SEWIJA: They'll be no other new stuff.
19 MR. OOlJKHANI: Although you have a right,
20 you're saying it's not - I hear Mr. Fine, the building
21 is under TCD. I am obligated, when I'm signing off fran
22 CD, the life safety system needs to l::e certified. Whose
23 fault it, whose costs, that's between you and the
24 association. As a building official, if the life safety
25 system is not certified, we will not give you a final CO.
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1 MR. SEMAJA: But that's all I'mtryin;jto
2 understand, though? I do those four items, five items
3 and it's a CO autorraticall y? It's not sarething else.
4 That's what I want to knCM.
5 BQl\R[) MEMBER SALVAOOR: Mr. Fine, as far as the
6 electrical alarm or whatever is coocerned, you haven't CO
7 on the building, the contractor is still responsible.
8 MR. FlNE: But they allcwed another contractor
9 to rrodify the system.
10 BQl\R[) MEMBER SALVAOOR: You should have finished
11 the building tw::l years go, eight years ago. Period. Get
12 it c:bne.
BQl\R[) MEMBER DIAZ: I have an arendrent to your
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BQl\R[) MEMBER SALVAOOR: I c:bn' t accept any
arerrlrents.
CHAIlWIN HCRTCN: Mr. Diaz is goin;j to speak,
then we'll l::e c:bne.
BQl\R[) MEMBER DIAZ: My suggestion to your rrotion
20 willl::e - l::ecause the closing of the building, it goes
21 to unsafe structures and a lot of things going behind
22 that. I will entertain a rrotion to give you - ~
23 concern is life safety on that buildin;j. I will
24 entertain a rrotion to give you 30 days. And in 30 days,
25 I want you guys here with the fire alarm certified. I
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1 cbn't care if sareone has w:>rked. That's your problem as
2 a oovelq::er. I want that fire alarm certified. I want
3 the fire sprinkler system certified.
4 Those two issues, for lIE, are very serious and
5 I'll entertain a rrotion giving you just 30 days to do
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EOARD IDEER SALVAIXR: I don't accept the
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OlAIRMAN HORTCN: Coesn't accept it.
Mr. Pierce.
EOARD }fl13ER PIERCE: I'd like to suggest v.e
call the question and vote on the rrotion that's on the
floor presently.
OlAIRMAN HORTCN: All right. There's a notion
on the floor to oony the aweal to the extension - to
grant the extension for 90 days.
EOARD !>EMBER SALVAIXR: l'b, to deny.
OlAIRMAN HORTCN: That's what I said, to deny
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20 EOARD m13ER SALVAIXR: l'bt for 90 days, just
21 oony it, period.
22 OlAIRMAN !mTCN: Well, I said the rrotion was to
23 grant 90 days, to oony - if the appeal was to grant 90
24 clays, you're denying that apr;eal?
25 EOARD l-EM3ER SALVAIXR: Right.
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CHAIRMAN HCRTCN: All q:posed, raise your hand.
(Diaz, Pierce, D9rrer, Correz, Eames).
BOARD MEMBER SALVAOOR: I l::et it had eveI)body's
4 heart rurming.
I rrake a rrotion for 30 clays.
6 MR. ROSNER: Sixty days.
7 BClA8D MEMBER VEIAZIJlEZ: Mr. Chainren, I'd like
8 to rrake a notion.
9 CHAIRMAN tKRTCN: H8 raised his hand first, Mr.
10 Diaz, v.ho' s on the table first.
11 EOARD MEMBER DIAZ: I would like to rrake a
12 notion--
BOARD MEMBER VEIAZIJ,JEZ: He's l::een talking all
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15 BOARD MEMBER DIAZ: I would like to rrake a
16 notion to grant the extension of the TCO for 30 clays.
17 BOARD MEMBER DERRER: Second.
18 BClAFD MEMBER DIAZ: en that 30 clays, I don't
19 want to hear --
20 BClAFD MEMBER SALVAIXR: Everything, everything
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BClAFD MEMBER DIAZ: I want to hear that at
least the fire alarm system has l::een tested and
recertified. If you got to work 24 hours, I cbn't really
care, that's not my problem. My problem is the safety.
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OlAIRMAN !mTCN: All in favor of that rrotion,
2 say aye.
EOARD l-EM3ER DEFFER: Wait, wait.
OlAIRMAN !mTCN: Mr. D9rrer.
EOARD ~ER DEFFER: I'm unclear as to \J1at
hawens, if v.e oony it.
EOARD l1M3ER KlJRZM.l\N: A new notion rrade.
EOARD lflf3ER DEFFER: Are we oonying the notion
9 or denying the extension?
10 EOARD M:MBER DIAZ: Denying the extension.
11 EOARD t1:M3ER DERFER: If we deny the extension,
12 they have to nove out.
13 EOARD !-IMlER PIERCE: They'll close the building
14 and nove everfrx>dy out.
15 EOARD tiM3ER DIAZ: It goes to unsafe
16 structures.
17 OlAIRMAN HORTCN: Unless another notion is rraoo.
EOARD ~ER KlJRZM.l\N: Call the question.
EOARD !'1MlER SALVAIXR: Call the question.
MS. M:Nl'OYA-HASAN: The city will not suggest
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19
20
21 that.
22
M<.. SEM\JA: Yeah, there is no need.
OlAIRMAN !mTCN: All in favor of that notion,
23
24 say aye.
25 EOARD !-IMlERS: Aye.
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1 CHAIRMAN tKRTCN: You said all that l::efore,
2 Rolando.
3 BOARD MEMBER DIAZ: I want the fire sprinkler
4 recertified and I want a list -- to see a list of
5 \J1atever -- fran the building official and you guys,
6 v.hatever has to l::e cbne on that building in the tine to
7 cb that list and get it CXl'd. You've got 30 clays to cb
8 that. That's my rrotion.
9 MR. ROSNER: Secxmd.
10 BOARD MEMBER SALVAIXR: Get it all cbne.
11 OlAIRMAN HCRTCN: t1Jtion rrade and seconded for
12 30 clays. Now discussion.
13 BOARD MEMBER VEIAZIJlEZ: On:::e a building is
14 OJ'd, it is required by the fire cleparI:rrent that the
15 sprinkler system is certified every year. It's required
16 the fire alarm is tested and certified every year.
17 BOARD MEMBER KURZW\N: That's right.
18 EOARD MEMBER VEIAZIJ,JEZ: So I think that notion
19 is noot. Is that the w:>rcl?
20 BOARD MEMBER KURZW\N: No, he wants it now. H8
21 wants the current one.
22 BOARD MEMBER DIAZ: Arnold, if you listen to my
23 notion, the building is on TCO now, not CXl.
24 BOARD MEMBER VEIAZIJ,JEZ: Rolancb, if you let lIE
25 finish, please. I have let you talk all afternoon today,
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