1674-28 Carl FisherDec. 21, 1940.
General Robert H. Tyndall,
711 North Pennsylvania Street,
Indianapolis, Indiana.
Dear Bobs—
There is being mailed to you today, in an envelo•, addressed to you as
Trustee, a letter of even date (which letter is being ad eased to the stock—
holders of the Carl G. Fisher Corporation), anditer addressed to you
there was enclosed a check for $7490.00, made sayable to Ro H. Tyndall, Trus—
tee -- which I presume you will wish to endorse and forward to Margaret at your
earliest convenience.
You probably have been made away/ of t fact that Mr. Daniels and an
attorney by the name of Howe were down ►ere re. ntly; the purpose of their visit
being to consult with the undersignor of the Estate of Carl 0. Fisher,
and also with the attorneys, Loftin, •alkin Anderson and Scott, who are the at—
torneys for Margaret and yourself as yt: , etc.
In the conversations which I had wi "r. Daniels and Mr. Howe I was led
to believe that they had conferred with you on ore than one occasion and, seem—
ingly — at least, judging frothey said - they were convinced that the value
of the assets of Carl's Es a werensiderably in excess of their actual value,
if one is to consider the eriod of t\e which may be required to liquidate the
assets, and taking into ther consider ation the fact that, in these troublous
times, items which now se to have a ertain value may, in the not very distant
future, prove to have a ve much les value than they now seem to have. In any
event, it is quite evident `., Mr aniels came here with the idea that there
was here at Miami Beach a real ate boom in the making — all of which is not
a fact.
It is
Last year the
year there
front; but th
clientele or
G. Fisher Group
very badly congested. Each one of these hotels that have been erected occupy
practically every inch of ground on which they are located. Such hotels as the
°Whitman, Shoremede, and Pancoast are very much disturbed over the situation, as
they will have as next door neighbors, hotels which cater almost exclusively to
Jewish clientele. However, the demand for and the scarcity of ocean frontage
has naturally increased the price; but that condition does not prevail as regards
property owned and/or controlled by the Miami Beach Bay Shore Company and/or the
Fisher Corporation.
e, as you perhaps know, that there is a scarcity of ocean frontage.
were 47 n hotels built — most of them on the ocean front. This
41 new hot: s being built, and they also are built on the ocean
e hotels w e not built by those who cater to the same class of
sts as d•. the Pancoast, Whitman, Shoremede, Braznell, or the Carl
s. The result is that the ocean front area has become
And with this condition prevailing, it is very fair to assume that real
estate values, particularly the property other than that located on the ocean
front, will, in all probability, decline in value. That means but one things
General Robert H. 'Tyndall -- 2. Dec. 21, 1940.
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that is, that the real estate holdings, etc., of our two Companies, i.e. the
Fisher Corporation and the Miami Beach Bay Shore Company, will not inorease in
value. Furthermore, each and every year the cost of doing business increases,
and that means a greater overhead for the respective Companies, and, further than
that, each year, of courrye, both Companies are required to pay taxes on their
holdings. There is only one way they can relieve thee.:elves of the tax burden,
and that is by selling real estate; and every time the sell a piece of real es-
tate, it reduces the assets. In other words, whenever .e Miami Beach Bay Shore
Company pays a dividend, a very small proportion, if an of it, comes out of
earnings. That is more truly the fact at the moment a� regards the Fisher Cor-
poration, for in the letter dated December 14th, ad rens-. to the stockholders
of the Fisher Corporation, you will note that uirawirscrtely 20% of the divi-
dend which was paid on Aupust 10th, 1940, came from earningiNthe balance, 80%,
care from the sale of one of the major assets of the Corporation, namely, the
Lincoln Hotel properties.
And in the letter rhich is bein
and to which I first referred in this
that only 33% of the amount will con
ending August 31, 1941, and 67% com
a "return of investment."
with the present dividend check,
u will note that it is estimated
e earnings for the fiscal year
e sale of assets, and is, as stated,
The Miami Beach Bay Shore Company.arrst approaching the point where
whatever, if any, future dividends are paid by them, will have to come from the
sale of assets, and not out
is sold by either the Fish
means that we are reducin
much. This is somethi
self have failed to reali
it the degree of iraportan
Corpor
the asset
which I am
,e; or, if y
which mu
ngs. 8o that, every time a piece of property
on or the Miami Beach Bay Shore Company, it
lue of that Company's stock by just that
to sure Ur. Daniels, and perhaps you your -
have realized it, you haven't placed upon
be given to it.
I am writing you in some detail on this subject because I dare say that
inasmuch as you undoubtedly have been approached, and may have had some confer-
ences with Dani. d the other members of the Riley Memorial Association Com-
mittee, and m:s* be further contacted by them, that you will understand just what
the situatio is. And whle the Bureau of Internal Revenue at the very first
placed a rats .r high valu upon the Fisher Corporation stock, it may interest
you to know at subsequ: tly, and after a most thorough examination, they very
materially re. ^ed thei, des as to what the Fisher Corporation stock was worth;
and you may res -,:..••-d that if they thought there was any chance of supporting
their first idea as to values, they would have stuck to it.
So, may I suggest that if, perchance, you should have occasion to have any
further contacts or conferences with Mr. Daniels, or any of his associates, that
you rnake it very clear to them that there isn't any such value attached to the
stock of the Fisher Corporation, which was held by Mr. Fisher, as has been pre-
sumed by many of those, inoluding some creditors, and even the beneficiary of
that Estate.
Mr. Daniels and Mr. Howe left here with the express thought in mind of
consulting others of the members of their Committee and working out some com-
promise that would be fair - at least, I have been so informed; they having been
General Robert H. Tyndall -- 3. Dec. 21, 1940.
as I believe, convinced that they have over-estimated the value of the Fisher
Corporation stock, which is the major asset of Carps Estate. And, in view
of the cir mnstanees and conditions, etc., may I further suggest that you re-
frain from making any comments as to the dividend now being paid by the Fisher
Corporation, for I fear that that may improperly influence them in their de-
mands.
As you perhaps know, Pres. Fisher, on her behalf
res Trustee, have filed claims against the Estate, to th
$85,000.00; this amount being claimed as being the unpai
time of Carl's decease on the Prenuptial Agreement, whit
to his marriage to Margaret, and in connection with whic
the Trustee.
beneficiary, and you
extent of approximately
balance due up to the
was made just prior
agreement yoWare
I have no desire nor intention of misleading anyone in connection with
sure that at the time Mr. Fisher gave
ad every intention, and was at
that at his death his Estate
nt of that amount out of his
p upon any of those to whom he
to give; but, as both you and I
e of the reorganization of The Carl
seriously considered having him go
o work out a solution of the prob-
ane.
these several matters. However, I am very
the note to the Riley Memorial Associatio
that time in a position to, and firmly
would be sufficiently large to warrant
Estate, without in any ray inflictin
might at some subsequent date rill w
know, Carl just escaped bankruptcy at
G. Fisher Company. In fact, at that time
through bankruptcy proceedings, but were ab
lem without having that stigma attached to his
In any event, I am
note which he gave to the
it to me, and I am sure t
have made an attempt to e
item; and certain it is, b
Association should not at t
their claim being paid in its en
which she is justly entitled and
clearly intendeshe should have.
e sur
ey Memor
t, had he r
ect a compr
all the r
hat Carl had entirely forgotten about the
1 Association, because he never mentioned
ailed it, he would, prior to his death,
se and satisfactory settlement of that
es of decency and procedure, the Riley
and under the circumstances, insist upon
ety, and thus deprive Margaret of that to
which, as evidenced by Carl's rill, he very -1
I fee hat it ie duty to write you this somewhat lengthy letter on
this subject because I r= lize what the extent of your influence is in the In-
dianapolis , and what .assistance you can be to Margaret in doing, or not do-
ing, or sayinj, anythi Yhich will create in the hinds of the Riley Memorial
Association Con•+a'.•-- exaggerated idea of the value of the Estate, and what
it will mean to Margaret in the event that the Riley Association should prose-
cute their claim to a successful conclusion. I am frank to say my personal
viewpoint is that they will never make it stick; but if they do, by the same
token, LarLaret'a claim of $,8OO.OoIs just as legitimate a claim, if not
more so, end will.unaoub5,0
ted1y be allowed; so that the claims against the Estate,
and other than the Riley Association claim, are approximately x100,000.00 as
against the 150,000.00 claim of the Riley Association; and, in the final analysis,
if all claims against the Estate are established as filed, the best that the Riley •
Association could possibly hope to get would be one-third of what there was in
the Estate; whereas, Margaret would get at least two-thirds; and the net value
of the Estate, after all expenses have been paid, will not, in my opinion, ex-
ceed $40,000.00, on the assumption that the value of the Fisher Corporation stock
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G erel Robert ii. Tyndall -- 4. Dec. 21, 1940.
is established at the appraised value of „25.00 per phare.
I assume that you will be so busy with things of a military character
that we are not going to have the pleasure of seeing you down here this winter
season. However, if you can break away long enough, we certainly shall be
glad to see you, and I would like very much to have youcone so that you might
more properly get a true picture of what is going on at iiaTat Beach.
In closing, I wish for you and your family not on, a most delightful
Christmas, but I hope that the new Year will bring to yon and yours a great
abundance of good health, happiness and prosper
FRHIAVM
Sincerely,
R. Hunpage.